talking to california businesses. we want to present an opportunity for phoenix. >> under the cal program. the phoenix group hopes to fly in 50 ceos, they're interested in leader with employees of 200 or more. >> we would encourage them to go because once they go to a place like that, they're going say, this isn't where i and my key people want to be. >> jim heads up the bay area council. he says companies here are always being courted by other cities and states. and he says some california companies like yelp have recently expanded into places like scottsdale, suburb of phoenix. but he is not worried about companies relocating. >> we also need to realize that most of the businesses who are here and the most successful here, they're not succeeding because the cost structure is the lowest. they're succeeding because they have the ability to innovate the best here. reporter: he points out the bay area has very strong universities, a well-ode indicate work force, lots of venture capital investment, and a very good qualit